Uberti Millenium Safety quesion (plus ammo?)

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T Bone
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Hello all, just joined up. I currently own only 2 Single Action 6 shtooters (pic in avatar), both Uberti, a Cattleman and a Millennium (model that is now sold as the Hombre). Both have the trigger mounted hammer block "safety" (NOT to be relied on of course, loading 5 is normal).

The Millennium model has a defect in the safety (again, NOT relying on it), to where once engaged, if the trigger is pulled  with a bit of force (not a lot more than normal firing, but more) the safety will disengage and hammer will drop (actually goes back ever so slightly before dropping).

I've yet to take it apart to look it over, but something is obviously bent, broken or worn (gun has been fired very little since new). Just wondering what the "usual suspects" might be for this defect (thinking either sear/trigger worn or broken, or wear/chipping of the hammer notch. Is it likely to be anything else -a spring perhaps?).

I want the assembly fixed back to functioning, as even though I won't reply on it, I have decided to add them to my carry rotation, and for liability's sake need the factory function restored (will I be able to source parts, anyone have a link?).

Lastly, ammunition. When I get to the point of carrying, I would like to use a modern JHP (probably Speer 250 gr.). I've read some state the steel on these guns is weaker, or thinner than some, and only milder cowboy loads should be shot. Will it harm these guns to shoot a bit of this carry ammo for training purposes? (Typically with my other pistols, I'll work with cheaper ammo and then end the range session with some of my more expensive carry ammo). Thanks for any replies, looking forward to hangin' here a bit.

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T Bone

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Weak steel?

T Bone;
I haven't heard anything from any reputable source about weak or thin steel in the Uberti revolvers. Although, I frequently hear odd things from those who are hung up on Colts. I have a Cimarron Bisley in 44 Special and a Beretta Stampede in 45 Colt (I believe made by Uberti). Both have received great reviews from the gun press, and the Beretta is considered to be a very strong gun. I don't load mine light, but rather up to the levels of my Smith and Wesson 1950 and 25-5. After about ten years of steady use, nothing has broken, and there is no evidence of wear. If they weren't made to at least SAAMI specs, they would not be allowed here.
I don't shoot jacketed bullets in any of my revolvers, mostly for cost. However, I can tell you that both 45 Colt and 44 Special normal loads have pretty impressive penetration. Get cast 250 grain slugs for your revolvers and load 7.5 gr Unique for 44 or 8.5 gr Unique for 45 Colt and see if that doesn't satisfy you.
As far as your problem with the safety, my Stampede, I bought it used, developed a problem where it would not cock every once in a while. After a lot of messing around, I found that a small, flat piece of spring steel screwed to the hammer had come loose and was not depressing the bolt. I tightened the screw after applying a touch of Loctite, and it has purred properly ever since. So, I would say to take it all apart with a good parts diagram handy, and check everything. It may be something really simple.
Mike

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Thanks for the reply.

Reading elsewhere today, I've learned a bit about the hard cast lead bullets and their popularity in SA circles. Also found information inferring that the Speer Gold Dot factory loads are in fact very similar in power to some Cowboy loads, and should be quite acceptable from a pressure standpoint (so far, still sold on the hollow points, they are what I carry in my 1911's, either the Gold Dots, Winchester Ranger T's or Federal HSTs).

The steel comments have come from a variety of sources (perhaps some Colt bias at the core of some). Some was older claims by some Custom 'Smiths years ago that refused to work on the Italian Colt copies, others as recent YouTube videos where some "random individual" chided one poster not to run modern hollow points for fear of damaging the Uberti.

I need to read some of the philosophy of Mr. Keith on the lead bullet thing, and see if I can get on board. But I will say that over penetration is a concern of mine, both from wasted energy not dumped into an aggressor and from a liability standpoint (round continues on to wherever). I know the 3 brands/models of hollow point I mention to be superior to most other defensive rounds in expansion and wound channel generation, and have faith in them. I no longer have any real fear of running them in my SA guns.

Parts? If I am correct and the hammer/sear is perhaps broken, or some other small part defective, does anyone here have experience with obtaining parts for these guns?

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T Bone

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I load the same load

I load the same load mentioned in my Uberti/Beretta Stampede .45 and have shot it for over 5 years with no trouble. It shoots it very well. I have never bothered with jacketed bullets.

T Bone
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Point taken.

Those lead slugs and black powder did manage to do a decent job of filling up Boot Hill back in the day I guess. Off to seek some of Mr. Keith's wisdom...

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T Bone

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parts

Parts are easy with Italian revolvers. Just go to vtigunparts.com.  My first Italian revolver was a 1st Model Dragoon in 44 that I bought 45 years ago. I have never had to replace a part.
Mike

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Lead...

Branding Crew has some great stuff by Glen Fryxell and others, about halfway down the page.
 http://www.sixguns.com/crew/index.html

PS Welcome to the forum
AL

T Bone
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Great stuff!

Got it guys, Vtigunparts.com (looks like they carry ALL the pieces) and Glen Fryxell for lead (looks like SEVERAL good bits of reading there). Thanks much!
Got to locate my SAA screwdriver set, then will break it down and see what's what. I'll post pics of whatever is broken (might benefit other newbies like myself down the road). Thanks again.

Regards,
T Bone

"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity" Sigmund Freud